Gore praises McCain, Obama

As you may have heard, Al Gore is calling for a transition to a renewable energy source within 10 years.  

Just as John F. Kennedy set his sights on the moon, Al Gore is challenging the nation to produce every kilowatt of electricity through wind, sun and other climate-friendly energy sources within 10 years, an audacious goal he hopes the next president will embrace.

He then goes on to praise both candidates...

The Nobel Prize-winning former vice president said fellow Democrat Barack Obama and Republican rival John McCain are "way ahead" of most politicians in the fight against global warming.

Al Gore is being overly generous in his praise... perhaps on purpose.  We need to do all we can to move both candidates further on this issue.  Both candidates, in my opinion, are woefully inadequate in their stated intentions.

Sen. Obama has an aspirational goal of reducing CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050.  He wants to do this by investing $150B over 10 years.  Sen. McCain wants to create a 300M prize.  

I am very sorry, but an aspirational goal for 2050 is just silly.  We cannot wait another 40 years.  I want an action plan for 10 years, with stated milestones for every 2 years along the way.  And I would like to see the committment of over 1 trillion dollars ~ or more (if necessary) over the next decade.

The Alliance for Climate Protection, a bipartisan group that he chairs, estimates the cost of transforming the nation to so-called clean electricity sources at $1.5 trillion to $3 trillion over 30 years in public and private money.

I have friends (who work for JPL) who have spent their lives on this issue.  They understand the intricacies of the climate model, and they insist that our window for action has either already closed, or will close rapidly within the next decade.  We are very close to initiating a runaway climate change at which point, no amount of emission reductions will help!

 Al Gore, of course, does not dwell on that scenario in public.  But, based on his call for a 10 year action plan, I suspect he knows how little time we have.

Al Gore is right ~ and we need to do all we can to push both Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain on this issue.



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I'm more in Gore's camp than anyone else's on these issues, but we all have to remember one thing:

We have to try not to wreck the economy in the process of shifting to more sustainable systems.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:33:48 PM EST

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I dont think it is even remotely possible to cut emissions by 80% in 10 yrs (or even in 40 yrs, for that matter) without SERIOUSLY wreckign the "economy"...

at least if you measure economy by metrics of consumption.

It doesnt even bother me one bit... we can all live without climate controlled cars if we have to !!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:59 PM EST
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Hilary and Barack think so. It's about investment in green energy and in fixing what leaks.  We need an FDR program, put American to work fixing our infrastructure, and in jobs that aren't polluting, such as education, small green business, local farming.  We already have a high enough standard of living, we live better than 18th century monarchs, it's time to change direction and we need leaders who ask us to make short term sacrifices for long term sustainability.  

So, what's with Gore, why is he thinking John McCain has any clue on how to make big business responsible to the planet?  


by anna shane on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:43:46 PM EST
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Gore probably realizes that both McCain and Obama are woefully short in their proposed action plans.  His praise of both is probably meant to move both men (and the parties they lead) in the right direction.


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:49:55 PM EST
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Climate control in cars is one of the least priority issues, I'd say.  Getting rid of AC would only increase gas mileage about 1 mpg.  There's plenty more we can do that would be a bigger win--for instance, getting people to realize that a 100-HP car will suit their needs just as well as a 250-HP car would, or transitioning to diesel or HCCI or all-electric.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:47:11 PM EST
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i used climate controlled cars as symbolic of the larger problem...

you cannot cutback on emissions without also cutting back on consumption ~ and this normally induces hissyfits amongst a people accustomed to increased levels of consumption!!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:48:54 PM EST
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That's fair.  At the same time, there are lots of ways to live both cleanly and comfortably, and we'll get more support for the clean if we remind people they can keep the comfort. :P

Many houses get enough sunlight to potentially run off-grid and carbon-neutral using solar energy, for example, and that's without giving up your A/C, your refrigerator, your computer, or your TV.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:56:04 PM EST
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The economy is already wrecking itself, in part because of our dependence on fossil fuels.  So I agree dratstic times call for drastic measures.  We are going to reach the point of no return a lot sooner than people think.


by JustJennifer on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:08:03 PM EST
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I'm ashamed to admit (none / 0)

I'm a big fan of the 300M prize (don't ban me!).

Crowdsourcing has worked wonders for several companies. Netflix, for example, has rought 18,000 unpaid research teams working on their $1M prize, and they've seen major progress towards their goal.

A $300M prize with a five year time limit, adequately framed, could produce some wonderful solutions.


by Neef on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:02:27 PM EST

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What Netflix prize are you talking about ?


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:06:33 PM EST
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They offered (none / 0)

One million dollars to anyone who could improve their recommendation algorithm. I think the starting point was like 20% error, the goal is 10%. Every year, they offer a 50k "progress prize" to the team who has made the most progress.

It's a fascinating exercise in co-opting the creativity of the masses. In the first couple of months, random people met and surpassed the algorithm Netflix's PHDs had designed. At one point, there were almost 19,000 teams (not individuals) working on the problem.

http://www.netflixprize.com/


by Neef on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:12:27 PM EST
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ah, like the Grand Challenge... except it is less grand !


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:16:25 PM EST
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by Neef on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:12:40 PM EST

I think Gore realizes (none / 0)

that Government isn't going to fix this problem, people will.  It's why he's staying out of it and one of the reasons why he didn't run this time around.

Obama is light-years ahead of McCain.  His entire platform on this is still developing but there's significantly more to it than the 80% reduction by 2050 (which is baselined against 1990 emissions, btw.)  See it here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy /


Let's elect a Dem President!
by SpanishFly on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:36:40 PM EST

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I dont know that there is much more to it than what I summarized.

He sets a goal of an 80% cut by 2050 (compared to a 50% cut by 2050 sought by G8) and 25% renewable electricity by 2025.  These are fine goals... but they mean nothing given the dire urgency.  And, in any case, how do you achieve these goals ?

To achieve this, he is proposing a measly $150B over 10 years (an amount that includes investments in clean coal, btw), and a measly doubling of energy R&D (which, currently, is pitiable).

Those resources have as much chance of making a dent as me buying a lottery ticket...


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:01:18 PM EST
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